Chat curtesy improvment

[BelgarionRiva]

A way to stop this is to give every user the option to filter the chat.
Why not but that would be another option to toggle on/off. That is why I prefer it permanently set.

You want filtering, I don't. I actually enjoy seeings players rage, and would rather understand their meaning than trying to guess it: **** your ****ing mother up her ***!!!
We can all imagine what he meant, but I'd rather see the words. You can just enable it once and that would be it.

1. the variations are endless.
That is why I have suggested to drop the separators to increase the range of detected words. I suppose there can be other tricks to make filtering more efficient.

The variations are not endless. I played a game designed for little kids where every possible word that included "f""u""c"or"k" was banned and every alternative of lettering or wording that contained those words was banned. I ended up not playing after a day because it was annoying as hell. Half my sentences were censored, even when I didn't say anything not nice... >_>

or use connotative language such as: [...]
That takes long to write. And one single word (like vixen) and they get silented.

A vixen is a female fox.... O_O How is that a bad word? See where the problem would come in? The sentence would look like this **** ****** *** *** ******* ****. When in fact, all I wanted to say was: Hi, how are you?
If you want filter, ask lopdo for enable/disable, but don't force it on the rest of us.

[Iamhere]

Lopdo - will that mute button be coming in 1.9? *crosses fingers*

[Joriom]

1. the variations are endless.
I suppose there can be other tricks to make filtering more efficient

The most powerful "trick" imho is called regexp. I suppose POSIX notation would look something like that for word FUCK with ANY (both type and count) of non-letter sepearators:
.*f|F[^[:alnum:]]+u|U[^[:alnum:]]+c|C[^[:alnum:]]+k|K.*
Which does not help much. Patterns automatically generated with help of explode, etc... There are semi-good solutions but none is perfect. You know why? Variations are not endless. But human imagination is. People will find a way to go around this. Also you can't ban words like "mother" and "suck" or "horse" as they're legit ones. But used in wrong context... Hmm... You all know what I mean.

[KivoR]

But used in wrong context...

The context is an abstract strategy game. You want to speak about your horse your mother your vixen ? Weird. But instead of game-chat go to the forum, it is welcome there : viewforum.php?f=6

The system made an error and muted you ? It is not really annoying and you ll be back in 2 days.
You couldn t refrain an impulsive reaction ? The system is kindly and you ll be back in 2 days.

You are a smart ass and could circumvent the system ? Maybe it took you long to type it all. Maybe you won t be understood. Your insults will loose lot of impact. And it can't be worse than currently.
But in 95 % of the cases insults won t work. And racist sexual insults wont appear as a common thing in Vortex.

So you are angry and you want to show it ? It is possible. It is not forbiden. You may type something like : "Blue : ####### @@@@@" or "Grrrrr". You can also learn to express your anger is decent wording.

[Joriom]

@ Riva
First time I must totally agree with you. For the first time! Really! And no, I don't want to molest you, sorry for that "@". Ops, I've just used it again. So its 4 days now.

EDIT: Did Riva just delete his post when I was sending mine!? So sad :/

@ KivoR (6 days now! )

Your mom has a close relationship with a horse every morning. She's taking his balls to her mouth.

How would you detect THAT? Balls? So if I say I have few types of balls in my basement (if i do like sport fe.) then I should be banished? Mouth? So If i say that my brother has bitten his lips and his mouth look funny i should get banished for 2 days? Strange. To fully determine if something is offensive or simply "BAD" algorithm would need to understand sense of the whole statement. Possibly in many languages. Remember that its only computer AND thats a server processing loads of text messages every second. Client-based check could be corrupted or altered by player so its not an option.

Also If i would get muted or banished for 2 days - I would just stop playing for that time or even longer. Its not fun to play without conversation. This way Lopdo would loose some of players, trust me.

You don't need to be a "smart ass" to avoid messages censor. The more advanced algorithm is the more resources it eats. It must be simple and fast. We don't need to have second, twice as fast machine, simply to filter offenses. Sexually related vulgarity is the most common one and also its hardest to detect. Why? Many common words have some sexually related background.

There are many your people playing this game. Sadly they mostly know only "fuck!" or similar expressions of anger. Also there are many "one-time-players" that do not care about being banished or so. IP check is not a good idea as well, trust me.

[BelgarionRiva]

Sorry, had to delete it for reasons I can't explain right now.

[Joriom]

Sorry, had to delete it for reasons I can't explain right now.

First time I agree with you and you delete your post... I hate you! -.-

[BelgarionRiva]

I was supposed to write an argument, but I ended up bashing the original poster.

[Swordalchemist]

What I plan to do is add mute button to each player

Very nice! This will be a great addition if carried out. Do you have any idea when this will begin to be used?

[egavaS]

blue is an annoying Dumb@$S... maybe Lopdo would block that one but i could also put;
blue is an annoying DumbA$$
blue is an annoying DumbA55
blue is an annoying Dumb@$$
blue is an annoying Dumb@SS
blue is an annoying Dumb@55
blue is an annoying Dumb@5S
blue is an annoying Dumb@$5
blue is an annoying Dumb@S5
blue is an annoying Dumb@5$
and that's only half the list, I'm too lazy to write them all down.
but the possibilities are
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