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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby necrocat219 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:44 pm

Do it! Please Chess~ and a suggestion too: make a stickied thread of the more prominent multiaccounts and update it occasionally. It would be completely beneficial for the transparent members of the community, and clear up those that do it because others do it.
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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby Vortex_Master » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:48 pm

royalblue wrote:Cat - I have only two things to say.

To the whole possible second account, all I need to point out is that a few weeks ago, this clan was led by someone who was also a leading member of the Order of Secrets. For a matter of fact, it still goes that a large number of the WC leadership is also in Order of Secrets, and are completely unknown (or at least try to be) to almost all of us. Technically, VM did admit eventually, but Drone tried several times to be CW, BeatlesFan had multiple accounts, OOS is largely your leaders, and there are even members here who are also in clans other than OOS. And yet, most of them, if not all, seem to be serving the Creed to the best of their ability. I will too.

Second, electing me will not mean my takeover. After realizing I had a chance sometime last night (and admittedly, I had intended my run as a casual joke, as I had not seen any potential to win), I have thought a bit about what I really plan. My main goal is not to lead forever, but just to get you back on your feet. If I can do this, the power will go back to those of you native to the Creed and you'll be back where you belong, as a dominating force of Vortex Wars.

Drone has no affiliation with the OOS, and never has. Ratburntro44 made it without Drone's knowledge.

necrocat219 wrote:I also need to point out that I dislike the atmosphere that multiaccounting brought to the scene. Your examples are going by the attitude and acceptance that multiaccounting is ok. Such WC and WP spying on each other has always annoyed me, and constant attempts (and successes?) to plant members in each other has always lead to an annoying uncertainty. I don't like how Ratburn, VortexMaster, Autmnwolf and Beatlesfan as examples I know of have multiaccounts to carry out their own ends. However, none as far as i know have been two prominent members like you (supposedly) are. Im talking about if we found out Autumn and Chris are the same person kind of big, however you seem to be two prominent members; that makes talking to you like talking to a robot, it's like all your responses are automated and I don't feel like I'm talking to a human being knowing that what you are saying is put on, and can criticise you with no guilt knowing I am most likely on good terms with your other self.

As for you leading WC for a short time...well things can turn out the way you want it. But I wouldn't feel comfortable not knowing who my leader is who is shaping the clan. I see you have good intentions in wanting to help the clan, but can't you do it another way?

WC and WP do not plant members. All WC in WP go by their normal account. All WP in WC do not try to gather info, as they are not ranked high enough to access any "hidden" knowledge, though I made everything open to the community except for my affairs in the OOS, which were just recently open to the public. As you can see, I have also released much info about the OOS, but only that which others wish for the community to know, or feel like telling me. I never was able to use any spies we may have had for my own purposes, because they are no longer affiliated with us. (and some may be rogue.)

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Chess435 wrote:I'm half-tempted to go through and just say who everyone is, but then you would all hate me forever.


It'd be comical, though, and I think it would clear up a lot of paranoia.

I have openly admitted to everyone who is me. I am Vortex_Master, and I was Sub-Zero, who no one here probably remembers.
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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby chris1726354 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:57 pm

Vortex_Master wrote:I have openly admitted to everyone who is me. I am Vortex_Master, and I was Sub-Zero, who no one here probably remembers.


Sub-Zero wrote:I rate VM a 8/10 because I hear he is good, but I have never played him. Plus he is in the same clan as me. :)
(rate the player above you)

Silly vm.
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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby Vortex_Master » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:01 pm

chris1726354 wrote:
Vortex_Master wrote:I have openly admitted to everyone who is me. I am Vortex_Master, and I was Sub-Zero, who no one here probably remembers.


Sub-Zero wrote:I rate VM a 8/10 because I hear he is good, but I have never played him. Plus he is in the same clan as me. :)
(rate the player above you)

Silly vm.

It's all true. ;)
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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby necrocat219 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:26 pm

Vortex_Master wrote:Drone has no affiliation with the OOS, and never has. Ratburntro44 made it without Drone's knowledge.


Do you really know that Drone has no affiliation with OOS? He may tell you, but the dubious nature of how people act on this forum means you can't be sure so I wouldn't say that as fact ;)

Vortex_Master wrote:WC and WP do not plant members. All WC in WP go by their normal account. All WP in WC do not try to gather info, as they are not ranked high enough to access any "hidden" knowledge, though I made everything open to the community except for my affairs in the OOS, which were just recently open to the public. As you can see, I have also released much info about the OOS, but only that which others wish for the community to know, or feel like telling me. I never was able to use any spies we may have had for my own purposes, because they are no longer affiliated with us. (and some may be rogue.)

I have openly admitted to everyone who is me. I am Vortex_Master, and I was Sub-Zero, who no one here probably remembers.


Nothing personal, I think you're a nice guy, and a friend at that and a fellow pack too! But knowing that you were the member of the OOS and had another account, how can I take your word that you didn't attempt to plant members in us? This all comes as part of the package with dubiousness. That is just an example, I do trust you, but I could quite easily be taking in a bunch of lies right now. I can't actually know for sure. It is interesting to know more about the OOS true. But you told me yourself you don't like having to undergo secrecy. Yes, jumbled thoughts, but that's my trail of thought for you, shown with transparency.
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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby Ratburntro44 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:28 pm

As to Drone's knowledge of OOS… I was under specific orders not to tell him of what the Spy Council was doing. He had no idea.
Chess435 wrote:I'm half-tempted to go through and just say who everyone is, but then you would all hate me forever.

Please do.

As for everything else… Please excuse my past behavior. I was plagued with illogic of an unknown source, but I managed to overcome and purge it within a dream, and am now back to normal. I do not intend to persist any ill-advised endeavors of the past or hold any mis-created grudges.
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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby Drone6o3 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:30 pm

YES CHESS, EXPOSE EVERYONE!!!

(P.S. I told Rat not to tell me anything our spies gathered because I didn't want to be part of any of it -_-)
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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby necrocat219 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:33 pm

And you expect anyone to believe those words? :lol: No one can know to believe you or not, you could be lying or telling the truth ;)
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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby Drone6o3 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:40 pm

-_- It's a f***ing game.. and it's not even one anybody needs data about.
All spying does is get useless secrets and make people suspicious and paranoid...

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Re: Warrior's Creed

Postby Vortex_Master » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:40 pm

necrocat219 wrote:And you expect anyone to believe those words? :lol: No one can know to believe you or not, you could be lying or telling the truth ;)

It is true only spies knew, because I was council leader and never knew.
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