Bit of a rant/venting regarding allies

[Xtermy]

tonyy4, you come across to me as a nice person, but in the last day or so I've seen you attacking at least 2 new forum members - why do you that? Come on...

And Reznorock, your idea about not attacking each other in case there is an alliance until the allies are dead is an interesting concept, but doesn't it ironically make everyone else ally against the allies?

Also, with no such official rules in place, even such a resolution can only happen if all of the other players agree to play along with it.

[tonyy4]

i just got offended when rez was yelling at us forum people

[tonyy4]

and yea i havn't been in a good mood lately i been stress

[AxemBlue]

Well it works for me Tonyy, this is one of the only times I think you've posted something decent.

And I do hope Reznorock stops ranting before he takes on the whole forum.

[tonyy4]

Well it works for me Tonyy, this is one of the only times I think you've posted something decent.

And I do hope Reznorock stops ranting before he takes on the whole forum.

if this was facebook i would like this

[attackbomb]

I would maybe

[Reznorock]

Gonna go from my last post and the responses from there in order.

@johua, good job at being of the same persuasion of tony, no the people I am refering to may or may not be on the forums, besides the original ranting of mine , you may have not noticed, really doesn't matter, it's about the playerbase as a whole.

Unless you and tony are trying to relay the idea that no one on the forums actually plays the game, then yes, you are included in the playerbase.


Also good job at not learning to read like tony, and still basing all comentary off the original post and who knows what else.

@tony, drama? maybe I missed something, I ranted during my first post and really tried to turn this into a discussion from there, which you and rat and joshua apparently simply can't have unless it involves your own narrow mindset.

Please, don't patronize me, you are anything but a mature adult, Ive taken the crap slung at me with a grain of salt and tried to get you to understand where im coming from in regards to the topic.

Thanks for calling me kid, makes me feel like im 20 again must make you at least 50-60?

and no, words around here, simply or otherwise don't hurt me, that particular emotion that you take for hurt thats bleeding out some of what I write is irritation, mainly because its obvious that some people don't have the mental capacity to move past earlier parts of a conversation and continue on with the subject in any sort of meaningful manner (in case you are stupid, im referring to you and yes, im perfectly capable of talking crap on someone and not feeling a damn thing unlike obvious forum whores like you that ive dealt with before you know what a computer even was kid).



@hinksy17 What you recommend does sound like proper solutions to the issue, but I ( and im sure plenty of others have been in the position) play the game and just kick back, sometimes theres a lot of games going, sometimes not so much, or maybe you or exhausted or whatever. trying to work everything out with how the game should go doesn't really work out all the time. ive had issues with people being jerks, some people just dont answer, or are young and dont seem to get it, or there is just a language barrier. and sometimes it was my fault for just being lazy or impatient and wanting to just start the game.

Usually I join someone elses game and the subject never really comes up till it's too late. although I have tried to pick this habit up again when starting a new game, im sure ill get back into it again in my own games, but I gotta be honest I really don't expect much in the way of a lot of players to honor it.

@xtermy
The idea with that idea is that everyone basically makes a pact to play solo, if someone decides to ally, the idea is for all of those people to have a truce and destroy the people that broke the pact and allied, then continue on to attack each other.

So yes in a sense it is a temporary alliance, it sounds great in theory but it really hasn't occured enough in games ive tried it to see how smoothly it works out.

@tony(again) dude, I wasn't yelling specifically at anyone, maybe if you read and understood the title of the topic you would have gotten that.


@axem. I really thought yours was the first post to show any sense and try to discuss things beyond my original rant. don't make it go down hill from there.


I started this thread out of frustration and anger at a lot of things, it was a rant, it was me venting my frustration , it was at no one in particular nor was there an intention of "taking on the whole forum"

If that is how you view it, then I really don't think you understand what ranting and venting is, I also made attempts to draw the conversation from that and to try to discuss the topic of alliances and all of that jazz while getting poked by a few of the members here.






Im not here to start anything with anyone, anything ive said to any of you that have responded that sounds like it was out of anger or frustration are mistaken unless it was in response to something that you said that I found to be irrelivant or idiotic. When it comes to my original post, I guess that is where I went wrong, I assumed that people around here would be intelligent enough to read the topic and understand that the first post was coming from a very frustrated standpoint. it wasn't aimed at anyone in specific. beyond that anyone that decided to be biased against me, for obviously no other reason than because im new to the forums,grow up.

Making a post that shows emotion isn't childish, making a post that is not part of the topic, or has nothing in the content to add value to the conversation or shows no attempt at being reasonable or seeing things from anothers perspective however, is.

That being said, I will be more than happy to simply no longer respond here if you people can't have a sensible conversation, rather than posting and making offhand remarks that really don't seem to have much thought behind them.

And my apologies if you think im poking at you or being an ass, I am not.

[Joshua]

Your turn Rat.

[Ratburntro44]

Gonna go from my last post and the responses from there in order.

@johua, good job at being of the same persuasion of tony, no the people I am refering to may or may not be on the forums, besides the original ranting of mine , you may have not noticed, really doesn't matter, it's about the playerbase as a whole.

In which most of us don't see much of what you're saying.

Unless you and tony are trying to relay the idea that no one on the forums actually plays the game, then yes, you are included in the playerbase.

We know that.

Also good job at not learning to read like tony, and still basing all comentary off the original post and who knows what else.

So replying to your second post is basing all commentary off of the original, and means they can't read?

@tony, drama? maybe I missed something, I ranted during my first post and really tried to turn this into a discussion from there, which you and rat and joshua apparently simply can't have unless it involves your own narrow mindset.

So apparently if you disagree, you have a narrow mindset and aren't willing to discuss (despite the fact that we clearly are as we're posting here)

Please, don't patronize me, you are anything but a mature adult, Ive taken the crap slung at me with a grain of salt and tried to get you to understand where im coming from in regards to the topic.

Thanks for calling me kid, makes me feel like im 20 again must make you at least 50-60?

Saying you're acting like a kid and saying you are a kid are two different things.

and no, words around here, simply or otherwise don't hurt me, that particular emotion that you take for hurt thats bleeding out some of what I write is irritation,

So you're going to argue about what "hurt" mean? I hardly think that is relevnt.

mainly because its obvious that some people don't have the mental capacity to move past earlier parts of a conversation and continue on with the subject in any sort of meaningful manner (in case you are stupid, im referring to you and yes, im perfectly capable of talking crap on someone and not feeling a damn thing unlike obvious forum whores like you that ive dealt with before you know what a computer even was kid).

So instead of actually replying, you insult our intelligence and say we aren't discussing? And you go on to call us forum whores, amazing.

@hinksy17 What you recommend does sound like proper solutions to the issue, but I ( and im sure plenty of others have been in the position) play the game and just kick back, sometimes theres a lot of games going, sometimes not so much, or maybe you or exhausted or whatever. trying to work everything out with how the game should go doesn't really work out all the time. ive had issues with people being jerks, some people just dont answer, or are young and dont seem to get it, or there is just a language barrier. and sometimes it was my fault for just being lazy or impatient and wanting to just start the game.

So when nobody else out there wants to play an allies game with you, don't play an allies game, either don't play or play following the rules of the people who are running the games you join.

Usually I join someone elses game and the subject never really comes up till it's too late. although I have tried to pick this habit up again when starting a new game, im sure ill get back into it again in my own games, but I gotta be honest I really don't expect much in the way of a lot of players to honor it.

Almost all of the people who try to ally in my games, I simply say "no allies" and they're fine. No need to say it beforehand. Not too late to do it. And they do honor it.

@xtermy
The idea with that idea is that everyone basically makes a pact to play solo, if someone decides to ally, the idea is for all of those people to have a truce and destroy the people that broke the pact and allied, then continue on to attack each other.

So yes in a sense it is a temporary alliance, it sounds great in theory but it really hasn't occured enough in games ive tried it to see how smoothly it works out.

I don't know exactly what you're replying to, so I'll just skip this.

@tony(again) dude, I wasn't yelling specifically at anyone, maybe if you read and understood the title of the topic you would have gotten that.


@axem. I really thought yours was the first post to show any sense and try to discuss things beyond my original rant. don't make it go down hill from there.

And you continue to proclaim that we aren't discussing anything beyond your original rant when that is simply a complete falsehood.

I started this thread out of frustration and anger at a lot of things, it was a rant, it was me venting my frustration , it was at no one in particular nor was there an intention of "taking on the whole forum"

If that is how you view it, then I really don't think you understand what ranting and venting is, I also made attempts to draw the conversation from that and to try to discuss the topic of alliances and all of that jazz while getting poked by a few of the members here.

So you're telling me people shouldn't actually reply to the topic at hand, and should instead switch to just a general discussion of alliances?

Im not here to start anything with anyone, anything ive said to any of you that have responded that sounds like it was out of anger or frustration are mistaken unless it was in response to something that you said that I found to be irrelivant or idiotic. When it comes to my original post, I guess that is where I went wrong, I assumed that people around here would be intelligent enough to read the topic and understand that the first post was coming from a very frustrated standpoint. it wasn't aimed at anyone in specific. beyond that anyone that decided to be biased against me, for obviously no other reason than because im new to the forums,grow up.

So now you insult our intelligence again. The fact that you are coming from a frustrated standpoint doesn't really change much.

We aren't being biased against you because you're new to the forums. We're arguing against you because we disagree with you. There is a very large difference there.

Making a post that shows emotion isn't childish, making a post that is not part of the topic, or has nothing in the content to add value to the conversation or shows no attempt at being reasonable or seeing things from anothers perspective however, is.

I didn't say it was.

That being said, I will be more than happy to simply no longer respond here if you people can't have a sensible conversation, rather than posting and making offhand remarks that really don't seem to have much thought behind them.

And my apologies if you think im poking at you or being an ass, I am not.

And again, proclaiming that we can't have a sensible conversation simply because we disagree with you.

[AxemBlue]

I think this sums things up pretty well.

I'm beginning to think that this whole topic is pointless, it's pretty obvious that we aren't going to change each other's opinions, so how about we just agree to disagree and move past these debates. I still think the anti-ally stance is better from any logical standpoint, but what can I do, eh?