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I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby Fangfallen » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:45 am

Lancestar2, this is directed to you mainly but also to a few other people who have aggravated,annoyed, or insulted me in-game or forum.

I forgive you. 100%. Completely.
From this point on I will treat you with the same respect as I treat Autumnwolf17,Royalblue,Ratburn,Highlander, and others of my friends.
I hold absolutely NOTHING against you Lancestar2. Yes you have done things that are wrong or that we simply do not approve of. I dont care, I forgive you.
I urge you Lancestar2, to make an effort to be nicer (I will do the same).

To everyone else on the forums.
I urge you to be forgiving, I know Lance has hurt you. And I know you have hurt him in kind. I dont care who starts it. I care who ends it. I'm ending it.
Techgump, I know you have gotten pissed at Lance. I urge you to wipe his slate clean.
Highlander, You are among those hurt most by Lance. I know he has been mean, but honestly you have retaliated in kind. Please forgive him.
Autumnwolf17, Please extend forgiveness to Lance. Remove him from our enemy list.

Now Lancestar2, you have been forgiven at least by me. I am TELLING you however that if you cross the line again, I will lose all respect for you.
I am trusting you Lance, don't make me withdraw that. Give me your word of honor and I will take you under my wing.
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Re: I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby highlander » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:48 pm

I am willing for the sake of the community to hold my temper.But i do have one request let Lancestar2 show his hand by changing the avatar he has at present.By changing i mean to something non-offencesive.
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Re: I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby Sundancer » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:05 pm

Nah, whatever.
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Re: I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby DERKA_J1988 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:37 pm

i dont even know him that much and i forgive him as well :)
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Re: I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby Lancestar2 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:05 pm

why thank you Fangfallen,

That was very kind of you to reach out with a hand of niceness and friendship. I have mentioned it in several places my intention to retire this summer given the weather and changes in my personal life I just have so much less desire to be here and going in circles with the arguments and discussions we have had. I guess most of you have gotten sucked into this tornado of "exchange of ideas" to say it lightly. Of course most of you have forgotten what this is even about! ... well let me remind you why it is that I have been ever so delightful.

All started when I was playing against a guest. That guest was rude disrespectful and down right insulting towards me! I didn't think much of it as we all know guests come and go. Until he claimed he was a member of high rank, I didn't believe him until he signed into his account can contacted me directly to PROVE IT! I was enraged at such a member was so nasty towards me even threatening to Kill me! Eventually we both went our seperate ways I never did anything about it because I didn't know much about how to report it on the forums.

Much later I have gotten into an argument with that player again and from there somebody said they were going to report me and sent me a link well I don't remember what they were reporting me for but by now I was already provoked enough by that member I don't think I even care. I followed that link and discovered the correct place to post things to be reported! I quickly reported the offensive post that member said to me in lobby. Yes, people can argue the context because so often people say I'mma kill you refering to in game but it's clear with the screen shot the context was not intended to just be in game. Personal threats have no business online.

The responce from the moderation team was to punish me! PUNISH ME FOR REPORTING ABUSE?!?! I was speechless and shocked but I guess had I known where to report it in time the ruling would have been different! none the less I continued the conversation and again that same member did what I knew he would do. He suggest I should go kill myself. I knew that member considering his background would easily say something so offensive and possible hurtful if said to the wrong person.

Sure I have said a few well written insults but never did I once resort to personal attacks. I can overlook the childish language and insults directed towards me but when sombody suggests or implies I should kill myself online that crosses a moral thread. I don't think that member has learned anything from this experience nor taken it seriously enough to realize the damaging effects that could have done on somebody else. Of course I did throw a few insults out as we all have. But if sombody is so easily provoked with a few insults as to suggest sombody harm themselves well do we over look there moments or darkness for there good record of calmness. Does a housewife also over look the causal beating when they have such a good marriage and life? The answers to those questions are not to be made by me but by the people involved in those situations.

Of course shortly after that reporting another member jumped into the fight defending there friend to the end and vowing to get me banned. Perhaps just in there actions based on my insults but nothing as awful as suggesting suicide to a complete stranger. My apologizes I still just can't seem the wrap my head around how people are so quick and nasty in there behavior not just that member but many others rallied to his aid and lashed out at me as well with insults and constant argument laced with insults. I don't think I have much more to say past this provided the childish insults stop. In which I would be ever so greatful.

You see I am NOT a religious man but I do find that tell people to have a blessed day conforts them well it usually does I guess. No I believe in the human's ability through knowledge to treat others with kindness. You see I belive it is greed, and lust of sex and power that is human nature such is in many animals. But it is our knowledge and education that helps us think on a higher level as well as our ability to meet our maslow's hierarchy of needs then and only then we are able to achive a higher being! I tend to try to live in my higher being state where I treat others with respect and kindness and they show it me back I enjoy that style of life. However I have been sucked down for reason that should be obviously now.

Of course there is two sides to every story if not more I have shared you mine. Provided it does not get deleted I wont have much else to talk about here ;)

Also regarding my avatar I don't see how that could be considered offensive but what you perfer of the following

Jamey Rodemeyer who was an openly bisexual teenager, known for his activism against homophobia and his videos on YouTube to help victims of homophobic bullying. He committed suicide as a result of constant bullying and being called gay

Image

Or Dawn-Marie Wesley who was from Mission, British Columbia, Canada, was a student who committed suicide, after experiencing a cycle of bullying by psychological abuse and verbal threats from three female bullies at her high school.

Image

By changing my icon and my signature I would be forever preserving there memory and hopefully in my absence encourage others to treat people with more humanly respect they deserve regardless of there behavior! Nobody deserves to be insulted or cyber bullied or cyber insulted with personal attacks you want to call me idiot, dumb ass, pathetic, and so on and so on. that should be a warning about YOURSELF and what your capable of with your bad behavior.

Of course I won't change my avatar until I fully am gone and I may change it back to somthing different come fall if I shall return. Thoughts, questions, concerns?

And as always have a Blessed day! unless your an athist such as myself then... Have a great day!
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why would you quote that and not say anything that is considered spamming my thread! DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN!

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Re: I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby Fangfallen » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:16 pm

I understand your point of view lancestar, but you are just as in the wrong as highlander is, Highlander already said he would put this all behind him, so I suggest you do the same. Then we can all get along. It will take time before everyone accepts you. Prove yourself. As for you avatar, I understand why you would want to use it. Sadly, it is viewed innapropriately, just change it my friend. Something related to VW and no one will any good reason to be upset at you. Another thing that usually annoys people here is extremely long posts. Just get to the point that will help to. :) This is just friendly advice, I learned a few things the hard way.
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Re: I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby infected » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:51 pm

Lancestar2 wrote:why thank you Fangfallen,

That was very kind of you to reach out with a hand of niceness and friendship. I have mentioned it in several places my intention to retire this summer given the weather and changes in my personal life I just have so much less desire to be here and going in circles with the arguments and discussions we have had. I guess most of you have gotten sucked into this tornado of "exchange of ideas" to say it lightly. Of course most of you have forgotten what this is even about! ... well let me remind you why it is that I have been ever so delightful.

All started when I was playing against a guest. That guest was rude disrespectful and down right insulting towards me! I didn't think much of it as we all know guests come and go. Until he claimed he was a member of high rank, I didn't believe him until he signed into his account can contacted me directly to PROVE IT! I was enraged at such a member was so nasty towards me even threatening to Kill me! Eventually we both went our seperate ways I never did anything about it because I didn't know much about how to report it on the forums.

Much later I have gotten into an argument with that player again and from there somebody said they were going to report me and sent me a link well I don't remember what they were reporting me for but by now I was already provoked enough by that member I don't think I even care. I followed that link and discovered the correct place to post things to be reported! I quickly reported the offensive post that member said to me in lobby. Yes, people can argue the context because so often people say I'mma kill you refering to in game but it's clear with the screen shot the context was not intended to just be in game. Personal threats have no business online.

The responce from the moderation team was to punish me! PUNISH ME FOR REPORTING ABUSE?!?! I was speechless and shocked but I guess had I known where to report it in time the ruling would have been different! none the less I continued the conversation and again that same member did what I knew he would do. He suggest I should go kill myself. I knew that member considering his background would easily say something so offensive and possible hurtful if said to the wrong person.

Sure I have said a few well written insults but never did I once resort to personal attacks. I can overlook the childish language and insults directed towards me but when sombody suggests or implies I should kill myself online that crosses a moral thread. I don't think that member has learned anything from this experience nor taken it seriously enough to realize the damaging effects that could have done on somebody else. Of course I did throw a few insults out as we all have. But if sombody is so easily provoked with a few insults as to suggest sombody harm themselves well do we over look there moments or darkness for there good record of calmness. Does a housewife also over look the causal beating when they have such a good marriage and life? The answers to those questions are not to be made by me but by the people involved in those situations.

Of course shortly after that reporting another member jumped into the fight defending there friend to the end and vowing to get me banned. Perhaps just in there actions based on my insults but nothing as awful as suggesting suicide to a complete stranger. My apologizes I still just can't seem the wrap my head around how people are so quick and nasty in there behavior not just that member but many others rallied to his aid and lashed out at me as well with insults and constant argument laced with insults. I don't think I have much more to say past this provided the childish insults stop. In which I would be ever so greatful.

You see I am NOT a religious man but I do find that tell people to have a blessed day conforts them well it usually does I guess. No I believe in the human's ability through knowledge to treat others with kindness. You see I belive it is greed, and lust of sex and power that is human nature such is in many animals. But it is our knowledge and education that helps us think on a higher level as well as our ability to meet our maslow's hierarchy of needs then and only then we are able to achive a higher being! I tend to try to live in my higher being state where I treat others with respect and kindness and they show it me back I enjoy that style of life. However I have been sucked down for reason that should be obviously now.

Of course there is two sides to every story if not more I have shared you mine. Provided it does not get deleted I wont have much else to talk about here ;)

Also regarding my avatar I don't see how that could be considered offensive but what you perfer of the following

Jamey Rodemeyer who was an openly bisexual teenager, known for his activism against homophobia and his videos on YouTube to help victims of homophobic bullying. He committed suicide as a result of constant bullying and being called gay

Image

Or Dawn-Marie Wesley who was from Mission, British Columbia, Canada, was a student who committed suicide, after experiencing a cycle of bullying by psychological abuse and verbal threats from three female bullies at her high school.

Image

By changing my icon and my signature I would be forever preserving there memory and hopefully in my absence encourage others to treat people with more humanly respect they deserve regardless of there behavior! Nobody deserves to be insulted or cyber bullied or cyber insulted with personal attacks you want to call me idiot, dumb ass, pathetic, and so on and so on. that should be a warning about YOURSELF and what your capable of with your bad behavior.

Of course I won't change my avatar until I fully am gone and I may change it back to somthing different come fall if I shall return. Thoughts, questions, concerns?

And as always have a Blessed day! unless your an athist such as myself then... Have a great day!

u know some people killed themselves its necessarily nice talking about them and putting there pictures and ur avatar
i need ideas for my sig
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Re: I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby Lancestar2 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:08 pm

Fangfallen wrote:I understand your point of view lancestar, but you are just as in the wrong as highlander is, Highlander already said he would put this all behind him, so I suggest you do the same. Then we can all get along. It will take time before everyone accepts you. Prove yourself. As for you avatar, I understand why you would want to use it. Sadly, it is viewed innapropriately, just change it my friend. Something related to VW and no one will any good reason to be upset at you. Another thing that usually annoys people here is extremely long posts. Just get to the point that will help to. :) This is just friendly advice, I learned a few things the hard way.


I don't see how writing a long and detailed post is offensive if anyone chooses not to read that's up to them. I am in no way requiring anybody to read it if they don't want to nor have the time. I don't hear an apologize or any regret for saying the thing that I am most upset about. The childish name calling and insults are annoying at best I'm not concerned about that but the insults that could have hurt sombody else enough to do somthing that can NEVER be undone that is what I find offensive and excusable. I don't expect an apoligize nor do I think he will ever give one. Also I don't expect him to respect him one ounce as he knows I have no respect for him based on his behavior. All I hope is that perhaps if he chooses to read this he possible may take a moment of reflection on the way he treats people when he has an outburst. We all have outbursts from time to time myself included when I have been tag teamed time and time again in the game I am quick to temper sometimes but there are some lines you just don't cross and I don't think that my message will ever get across to some people. Cyber bulling and constant arguing and insulting solves nothing... as these last few months should be proof what have we accomplished? Besides throwing out insults and being harsh with one another? Why even continue to respond to me if you feel me as insulting? Simply walk away is sometimes the best solution. My weakness is I can't walk away when somebody is capable of saying specific things to a random person online... Yes, I am a random person in which you don't know my mental state, you don't know if I suffer from depression or not. Who is to say that there could have been a chance that random person could have been in a state in which those words could have been taken more serious?

Some people in life truly do not care about others but again who is one to truly know if they do or not. I guess only the people who don't care about others truly know for themselves if they even know themselves. Just be aware of your behavior towards me in a gang mentality once you determined I was being rude and there was an established group trying to get me banned for some rude comments. All the rude comments towards me have been overlooked and dismissed why I wonder? Either way we are all responsible for our own behavior and nothing more and nothing less. Treat others with respect my friend even if they don't deserve it in your eyes. The respect I am talking about is basic respect such as treating them as a human being by not making personal attack and by not threatening them or by not bullying them online. If you want to argue and debate others stick to the issues as I usually have.

Also I do forgive you all for your behavior as well. Also I would apologize to each and everyone if it means anything to you. I apologize that most of you got sucked into this argument and debate in which your participation was never intended. Also I would apologize to the person who trolled me as a guest only to show himself and claim that everything he said didn't matter because he was a guest at the time. I would apologize to him if only it game him pause the next time he signed on as a guest and decided to troll another person. I would apologize to him if only he learned form this experience enough and changed his behavior when he got upset and vowed to never suggest anybody do harm to themselves or threaten to harm others. I would apologize in hopes that he and everybody here takes this as a sign that there is truly beauty in the world and there is good people out there willing to spend time trying to teach good lessons and trying to spread the word to be kind to one another.

With that I say I apologize for any negative experiences you have had from this constant argument. I apologize for all the pain and suffering if any this experience has caused you and I hope you all will learn to treat others with more respect they deserve as a natural born human we ALL deserve that. Also I say this from the kindness of my heart. No, I don't have fear from a dangerous god who will punish me if I don't nor do I do this because of fear or any other reason besides me trying to be kind and a good person. I hope you all have learned from this experience but feel free to mock me for my apologize of food faith. I guess thats what blind faith is.. But no for the most part I am not as wrong as others based on there actions for the most part I never used personal attacks such as childish language or any of the potentially dangerous things he and many others of you have said. You can disagree with me all you want until you bring forward proof of my personal attacks and such then all your doing is denying the truth. The truth will set you free! embrace it or discover it either way the truth will set you free
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why would you quote that and not say anything that is considered spamming my thread! DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN!

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Re: I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby chris1726354 » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:21 pm

Lancestar2 wrote:With that I say I apologize for any negative experiences you have had from this constant argument. I apologize for all the pain and suffering if any this experience has caused you and I hope you all will learn to treat others with more respect they deserve as a natural born human we ALL deserve that. Also I say this from the kindness of my heart. No, I don't have fear from a dangerous god who will punish me if I don't nor do I do this because of fear or any other reason besides me trying to be kind and a good person. I hope you all have learned from this experience but feel free to mock me for my apologize of food faith. I guess thats what blind faith is.. But no for the most part I am not as wrong as others based on there actions for the most part I never used personal attacks such as childish language or any of the potentially dangerous things he and many others of you have said. You can disagree with me all you want until you bring forward proof of my personal attacks and such then all your doing is denying the truth. The truth will set you free! embrace it or discover it either way the truth will set you free


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Re: I forgive you Lancestar2

Postby Joshua » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:08 pm

I ain't forgivin' nuttin'.
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