Vortex Wars

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You're really helping those noobs who start right next to other people, Lopdo?

Ratburntro44 wrote:dfssfhsfhlisnranfvklafnsblhbfggfa

You're really helping those noobs who start right next to other people, Lopdo?

Actually frankenstain helps more thous who starts next as it gives shield for first attack so you can move or attack back

I used it on an 8 region map ans was call confidence in my attacking. And yet I didn't conquer a single place out of seven attacks before I was killed. And I used attacks boosts. So honestly, the advantage isn't huge. Now if it were a happen bonus then it would be, but for its uses, it is actually weak. Still, being the wolf lover I am, I am a huge fan of it.

Start next to someone+werewolves+1 free attack boost; chances, let's see.

Let's assume for this that it is 2 against 2, a relatively common scenario. We will have the enemy using a race which doesn't affect this.

1/36 12 -> 13 never loses -> 0 chance losing
2/36 11 -> 12 loses 1/36 -> 2/36*1/36
3/36 10 -> 11 loses 3/36 -> 3/36*3/36
4/36 9 -> 10 loses 6/36 -> 4/36*6/36
5/36 8 -> 9 loses 10/36 -> 5/36*10/36
6/36 7 -> 8 loses 15/36 -> 6/36*15/36
5/36 6 -> 6 loses 26/36 -> 5/36*26/36
4/36 5 -> 5 loses 30/36 -> 4/36*30/36
3/36 4 -> 4 loses 33/36 -> 3/36*33/36
2/36 3 -> 3 loses 35/36 -> 2/36*35/36
1/36 2 -> 2 always loses -> 1/36*36/36

Gives (2+9+24+50+90+130+120+99+70+36)/36^2 = 35/72 chance losing
Square that to get chance of losing both rolls from the boost: 23.6% chance losing both times, or 76.4% chance of winning cheaply under these conditions.

Ratburntro44 wrote:Start next to someone+werewolves+1 free attack boost; chances, let's see.

Let's assume for this that it is 2 against 2, a relatively common scenario. We will have the enemy using a race which doesn't affect this.

1/36 12 -> 13 never loses -> 0 chance losing
2/36 11 -> 12 loses 1/36 -> 2/36*1/36
3/36 10 -> 11 loses 3/36 -> 3/36*3/36
4/36 9 -> 10 loses 6/36 -> 4/36*6/36
5/36 8 -> 9 loses 10/36 -> 5/36*10/36
6/36 7 -> 8 loses 15/36 -> 6/36*15/36
5/36 6 -> 6 loses 26/36 -> 5/36*26/36
4/36 5 -> 5 loses 30/36 -> 4/36*30/36
3/36 4 -> 4 loses 33/36 -> 3/36*33/36
2/36 3 -> 3 loses 35/36 -> 2/36*35/36
1/36 2 -> 2 always loses -> 1/36*36/36

Gives (2+9+24+50+90+130+120+99+70+36)/36^2 = 35/72 chance losing
Square that to get chance of losing both rolls from the boost: 23.6% chance losing both times, or 76.4% chance of winning cheaply under these conditions.

Man you need to stop using math before your hooked into it

Idiootti wrote:

Ratburntro44 wrote:Start next to someone+werewolves+1 free attack boost; chances, let's see.

Let's assume for this that it is 2 against 2, a relatively common scenario. We will have the enemy using a race which doesn't affect this.

1/36 12 -> 13 never loses -> 0 chance losing
2/36 11 -> 12 loses 1/36 -> 2/36*1/36
3/36 10 -> 11 loses 3/36 -> 3/36*3/36
4/36 9 -> 10 loses 6/36 -> 4/36*6/36
5/36 8 -> 9 loses 10/36 -> 5/36*10/36
6/36 7 -> 8 loses 15/36 -> 6/36*15/36
5/36 6 -> 6 loses 26/36 -> 5/36*26/36
4/36 5 -> 5 loses 30/36 -> 4/36*30/36
3/36 4 -> 4 loses 33/36 -> 3/36*33/36
2/36 3 -> 3 loses 35/36 -> 2/36*35/36
1/36 2 -> 2 always loses -> 1/36*36/36

Gives (2+9+24+50+90+130+120+99+70+36)/36^2 = 35/72 chance losing
Square that to get chance of losing both rolls from the boost: 23.6% chance losing both times, or 76.4% chance of winning cheaply under these conditions.

Man you need to stop using math before your hooked into it

Already in Calc 2, it is a bit too late.

Do you know how the gradual the 15% attack boost decreases after 5 territories? Or is that for Lopdo's brain only?

necrocat219 wrote:Do you know how the gradual the 15% attack boost decreases after 5 territories? Or is that for Lopdo's brain only?

Well, since 15/5 = 3, I'm guessing it''s 3% per region.

no, it is not Depends on number of total regions in the map, you are down to 0 when you control half of the map. It might seem that by then it would be too late, but the bonus gets useless much sooner

Lopdo you are so smart. I have to agree with you. You are always s wise and clever. But since you programmed the race could you give us the formula you used so we can straighten this ut like mathematians? If we use it for oursleves you could always sue us.