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People chill out and relax!

Postby BetaGen » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:51 pm

Too much commotion was caused by the 1.8 Update.
Just live with the times and adapt - the developer of the game decides what is best for him, this update is probably far from last, so be more patient. Lopdo and his team look through suggestions and implement them if possible/logical. Here is a shortened list of features that will stabilize the current situation:
Lopdo wrote:Here is the list of thing that we plan to implement in (near or far) future. Order of items doesn't mean they will be made in this order :)
    - private games
    - whisper in chat
    - friend list
    - tournaments
    - achievements

With private games + friend lists you can make the game personal with people you trust and know. Since you might be "friends" you can apply simple ideas such as - no bonus races etc.
The whisper in chat will help you gang up on the big bully with super upgrades, make a backstabbing alliance, lie and deceive - the game will become more shadowy and fun.
If tournaments are implemented, there will be basic rules for tournaments - level range/race range/upgrades, therefore you can choose what to go up against
Finally, the achievements will be a goal in the game that is most likely to be awarded with shards, to get an extra income (especially for beginners who have 0 achievements to get quick income for a race like angels/demons/insectoids or premium 1week or a storage upgrade for large maps)

People of principle
Some are threatening to leave the game, mis-advertise and so on. An analogy to the situation would be a Santa (since it's close to Xmas). Image Santa brings you good stuff every year as in good updates, people play and are cheerful. Then one year Santa runs out of money and he brings you something less awesome. Then, instead of being understanding, you start shouting out that you don't believe in him and that everyone should as well. Is that fair in principle?
So instead of going over yourselves, you should be more helpful and suggest features, that would help develop the game further :arrow: the game is modified to a better side :arrow: the player range expands :arrow: money issues are dealt with :arrow: game is made enjoyable for most! If people say that they aren't creative enough to come up with new ideas, then think about the one's on the to do list and discuss them, how do you see those features? What will make them most useful for you yourself?

The Novice experience
Well if a person starts to play the game, you get at least 800 shards quickly enough. Worst case scenario, just log in every day for 5 days, you'll have quite enough for a weekly premium. Double XP with a low level means quicker leveling, even more shards. Angels/Demons are substantial in a fight against other races and cost only 1200 shards. If you get excited about the game, you will probably spend a few dollars on some upgrades/races and thus develop the game and make it easier to compete with higher levels. A host can control who he lets in, some people think of game names such as "no races/no bonuses" and kick the disobedient one's.

Simple enough, I'm not trying to prove a point or to cause a trolling/angry debates, I'm just asking you to keep it simple and less chaotic. I am not agreeing on the 1.8 update, simply put, I just deal with it and don't act like an asshole to be superior to lower levels. Forum based fights and revolutionists will only lead to a game stagnation:
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Re: People chill out and relax!

Postby Ratburntro44 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:51 pm

I don't like the santa analogy. I just calculated that I have payed Lopdo about 10 times what I've cost him in bandwidth, so, in terms of me individually, he gained a profit.

Whisper- that'll make it worse. I hate teams of any form in Vortex Wars.
I don't care about bonus races troop upgrades, I care about boosts. And there isn't a way to prevent people from using boosts- you can kick people with bonus races, but not kick people in-game for using boosts.
Also, do I really want people ganging up on myself, since in many cases I could be considered the big bully with super upgraded?
And it isn't a lack of upgrades I'm angry about- I just hate boosts. A lot.
Anyways, the only features that would make me happy would be upgrades disabled (even if I have to pay to use it), a way for the host to kick people in-game (definitely not happening) or a way to disable boosts, somehow.

That's all.
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Re: People chill out and relax!

Postby BetaGen » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:12 pm

Ratburntro44 wrote:Anyways, the only features that would make me happy would be upgrades disabled (even if I have to pay to use it)<...>

I agree, sir! A way to deal with finances for Lopdo just as well, I guess
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Re: People chill out and relax!

Postby Ratburntro44 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:36 pm

Yes. If I still played, it would probably be on average 2 hours per week. As I usually play with 6 players, considering the time taken for each player to die, it would be around 8 hours bandwidth per week. 416 hours a year. So 15 dollars per year should be able to more than cover bandwidth for my games if upgrades disabled were back. So how about $15/year to be able to host upgrades disabled games? Considering if multiple people bought it, those players may play each other's games, that would make it even more gained money. Sound good?
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Re: People chill out and relax!

Postby 1N5AN3 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:37 pm

Lopdo wrote:Here is the list of thing that we plan to implement in (near or far) future. Order of items doesn't mean they will be made in this order :)

- private games
- whisper in chat
- friend list
- tournaments
- achievements


Agree with all, except with whisper in chat. Meaby know when will that be implented. ;)
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Re: People chill out and relax!

Postby rrrttttt » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:19 am

Wow BetaGen! that's a big article you've posted!
First of all, you're the one of those people who tell me what to do and what to live with - that's rude, you are neither my mom nor my boss.
FYI i'm not threatening to leave the game, i actually left, i do not play VW anymore.
We have discussed this "update" in several topics on this forum, but look at what you did, you disregarded all that and instead of replying there you wrote this article here as if your opinion is so special it deserves a separate topic.
And then you say you don't wanna argue? Why post so many arguments if you don't wanna argue? They are worth nothing if you are not defending them. Are you a troll :?: Too much effort for a troll.
I'm not going to explain it to you here again for the n-th time.
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Re: People chill out and relax!

Postby furqi » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:08 pm

rrrttttt wrote:Wow BetaGen! that's a big article you've posted!
First of all, you're the one of those people who tell me what to do and what to live with - that's rude, you are neither my mom nor my boss.
FYI i'm not threatening to leave the game, i actually left, i do not play VW anymore.
We have discussed this "update" in several topics on this forum, but look at what you did, you disregarded all that and instead of replying there you wrote this article here as if your opinion is so special it deserves a separate topic.
And then you say you don't wanna argue? Why post so many arguments if you don't wanna argue? They are worth nothing if you are not defending them. Are you a troll :?: Too much effort for a troll.
I'm not going to explain it to you here again for the n-th time.


dude, I think this person is just trying to calm things down. you can't blame someone for that. Also If you "quit" you wouldn't be on this forum. UNless you are doing what I was doing and acting all huff and puffy but you are still addicted to this game so you act like you quit but u secretly play
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Re: People chill out and relax!

Postby BelgarionRiva » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:56 pm

Ratburntro44 wrote:Yes. If I still played, it would probably be on average 2 hours per week. As I usually play with 6 players, considering the time taken for each player to die, it would be around 8 hours bandwidth per week. 416 hours a year. So 15 dollars per year should be able to more than cover bandwidth for my games if upgrades disabled were back. So how about $15/year to be able to host upgrades disabled games?


Without arguing the validity of your arguments, you're suggesting an equivalence in bandwidth versus the amount it would cost you to pay for wanted benefits. You have to remember that there are a maximum of 8 players in a game. That's 8 potential clients (who all cost bandwidth) that would spend their money. Are you prepared to spend 15$ * 8 players, for a total of 120$ per year to play without upgrades?

Ratburntro44 wrote:Considering if multiple people bought it, those players may play each other's games, that would make it even more gained money. Sound good?


I don't understand what you mean. Only players that buy this feature would be able to play in each other's games? That would make your number of players very limited, wouldn't it? (since not many people would be willing to pay 15$ to have *no* upgrades...)
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Re: People chill out and relax!

Postby Ratburntro44 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:26 pm

No, no, no. For (at least the amount that I play) it would cost $15/year altogether for bandwidth, me and the people playing my games (but their bandwidth only counts when they are in my games). For the second part, I was simply pointing out that people end up playing in each other's upgrades disabled games sometimes, not that they would be required to.
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Re: People chill out and relax!

Postby furqi » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:48 pm

BelgarionRiva wrote:
Ratburntro44 wrote:Yes. If I still played, it would probably be on average 2 hours per week. As I usually play with 6 players, considering the time taken for each player to die, it would be around 8 hours bandwidth per week. 416 hours a year. So 15 dollars per year should be able to more than cover bandwidth for my games if upgrades disabled were back. So how about $15/year to be able to host upgrades disabled games?


Without arguing the validity of your arguments, you're suggesting an equivalence in bandwidth versus the amount it would cost you to pay for wanted benefits. You have to remember that there are a maximum of 8 players in a game. That's 8 potential clients (who all cost bandwidth) that would spend their money. Are you prepared to spend 15$ * 8 players, for a total of 120$ per year to play without upgrades?

Ratburntro44 wrote:Considering if multiple people bought it, those players may play each other's games, that would make it even more gained money. Sound good?


I don't understand what you mean. Only players that buy this feature would be able to play in each other's games? That would make your number of players very limited, wouldn't it? (since not many people would be willing to pay 15$ to have *no* upgrades...)



JUst wondering, what is your motive in this post? The outrage of this new update is gone. I personally would just like to apologize and get over it. Y do u care about what rat wants to do. If lopdo allows rat to pay to play, then he will do the math, can you guys please stop debating ?
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