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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby Sefferoth » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:04 pm

Lopdo wrote:You could say that I am not member, ta taaa... don't be a smartass


How unprofessional of you calling me a smartass, I am pointing out a very valid point here? I might be a potential customer and with this behavior I might refrain from buying any of your services.

Rules are rules no exceptions. It's like the gouvernment saying we can break the speed limit but you cannot? Even in WoW Blizzard devs have to follow their own guidelines. Fix the rules or simply remove them.

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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby Lopdo » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:08 pm

I think you might understand there are pretty valid reasons for me to have multiple accounts
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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby Joriom » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:11 pm

First person to be banished due to new RuleBook: Lopdo :lol: And don't listen to his pathetic excuses! Guilty! :twisted:
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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby Sefferoth » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:13 pm

Lopdo wrote:I think you might understand there are pretty valid reasons for me to have multiple accounts


Who says other members of this community don't have any valid reasons to have mulitple accounts? Your comment is biased because of this. Change your rules so that they work and are executable. And besides, the only reason you stated in those posts is because you like to play on them. Just like any other member.

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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby Joriom » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:17 pm

Sefferoth wrote:Who says other members of this community don't have any valid reasons to have mulitple accounts? Your comment is biased because of this. Change your rules so that they work and are executable. And besides, the only reason you stated in those posts is because you like to play on them. Just like any other member.

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Dear Sefferoth, rules are there to deter cheaters and build a base for moderators so they MAY apply some of the rules if they see its necessary. Thats does not mean they will ALWAYS banish everyone with multiple accouts, but they should have foundations for banishing people who have more than one in bad intentions.
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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby Sefferoth » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:22 pm

Joriom wrote:
Sefferoth wrote:Who says other members of this community don't have any valid reasons to have mulitple accounts? Your comment is biased because of this. Change your rules so that they work and are executable. And besides, the only reason you stated in those posts is because you like to play on them. Just like any other member.

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Dear Sefferoth, rules are there to deter cheaters and build a base for moderators so they MAY apply some of the rules if they see its necessary. Thats does not mean they will ALWAYS banish everyone with multiple accouts, but they should have foundations for banishing people who have more than one in bad intentions.


Dear funny-picture-of-crocadile-dude,

Rules are there to uphold order and gives you a good perspective of what is allowed and what isn't. Right now I can't see that with how the rules are stated now. If he wants to make exceptions then he should write that in the T.o.S, rulebook or whatever you want to call your 'laws'. It should be fair and balanced but most importantly transparant to the public.

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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby Joriom » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:36 pm

Imma no ya' dude mahn :lol: Also avatar brings nothing to the discussion so I don't see a point why are you talk about it. But lets leave it there not to be childish.

To the point. We're not building goverment of Free United Staes of Europe nor Fourth Los Angeles Republic. Tose are only aproximated rules that should not be violated without a good reason aaaand its up to both moderators and you to decide what "good reason" is.

Edit: Years of observation brought me to conclusion that people start to catch every side-topic they can and turn them into their advantage when they lack arguments. I hope thats not why you've realised my avatar out of sudden.
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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby Mipster » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:02 pm

You've got a horribly one sided way of looking that this Seff. The rules are there for a reason. The one about multiple accounts, which you seem so fixated on, is there for the developer and staff to deal with people who fix games, playing on multiple accounts at the same time. It happens, and its really infuriating. The rules allow staff a valid reason to deal with these people abusing aspects of the game. They're broad enough to allow staff to deal with people who abuse the game. The fact that you are given a full list of the rules, and how they will be reinforced, is better than some of the other sites I've played on.

I'm really not too sure why you're all fighting so hard against these rules. They're basic codes of conduct expected of the member base, and they're enforced much more vigorously on other sites. They're the kind of thing that is expected of ALL people. If you act abusively to people face to face, there are repercussions. This shouldn't change when you're interacting with people online. Just because there is a certain amount of anonymity online doesn't give anyone the right to act abusively, or break the rules society puts down.

'How unprofessional of you calling me a smartass, I am pointing out a very valid point here? I might be a potential customer and with this behavior I might refrain from buying any of your services.' - Seff

How pathetic of you to use that card. Lopdos made a great game. He's been good enough to allow people who dont pay nearly all the features that those who do pay get (and even then, though you cant make large maps with the map editor, you're allowed to use them). Most other developers wouldn't be that generous. So dont try to abuse his kindness by trying to counter his equally 'very valid point' by threatening to withdraw your potential custom.

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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby BelgarionRiva » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:32 pm

Off topic: I do not think lopdo allows map edits to non paying members because of generosity, I think it's to attract more people, maybe?

I'm really not too sure why you're all fighting so hard against these rules.
It's because rules are there so a lawyer, a human, a policeman, anybody can look at them and agree that they make sense, and that they have to be obeyed to the letter. You cannot put in 1000 rules, and only refer to them when it makes sense to you. That's what they do in a military regime... I am asking for the rules to change, so they can be followed to the letter, and not when it makes sense to a mod.
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Re: Vortex Wars Rulebook Problem

Postby Joriom » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:38 pm

Obeying rules to the letter.

Thieft should be punished with cutting hand off.
Mother that could not find a job and everyone denies to help her stole some food to feed her child.
Cause of obeying rules to the letter we will cut her a hand.

Perfect. THATS what in regime.
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